Curse

Div · Sep 25, 2007, 05:45 AM // 05:45

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Originally Posted by Malchior

My warrior uses the following build, and has 480 HP (Which is the same as the base hP for level 20), and 38/40 energy (can't remember the right amount, lol)
I have all radiant insignias, and 3 attunment runes on my armour, though I couldn't find a fellblade with energy +5 within my price range. Ahh well maybe someday.

[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Live Vicariously[/skill][skill]Mending[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]

Example of a bar that'll take you perfectly fine through the game, is better in terms of damage and protection and utility compared to your bar, but still sucks.

Malchior · Sep 25, 2007, 05:47 AM // 05:47

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

If damage output isn't your goal, what is?

That's not really much of a tank/aggro build either. I mean yeah, you've got 100 AL + 16 AL from your shield, but Endure Pain is an "Oh Shit!" button at best, and you said yourself Lion's Comfort was an insufficient heal.

But, as I told you before, play what you want if you like it.

How is he thinking like a Sin?

I'm not dealing the damage, only acting as a distraction so the nukers can deal damage. I don't make builds to be uber leet, I enjoy mixing and matching skills for fun. I just play to enjoy myself and I do, I also am still and always will be fiddling about with skills. My aim is to take damage and slow assassins, warirors and ect down if they start harrassing casters too much. I have an interupt and a running speed skill to assist. i'm not playing the role of mighty hero that can defeat vast whatevers, I'm doing my part so the nuker/monk/whathaveyou heros can do theirs. =P

Malchior · Sep 25, 2007, 05:51 AM // 05:51

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Live Vicariously[/skill][skill]Mending[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]

Example of a bar that'll take you perfectly fine through the game, is better in terms of damage and protection and utility compared to your bar, but still sucks.

Fantastic.

But this thread was looking for tips on, wait for it....ENERGY management. Oh that's right. My post was to assist in another way you can manage energy, just trying yo help someone out. I didn't say anything about damage per second now everyone is trying to tear me a new one. Like damn I'm sorry I even tried.

Get everyone actually get back on topic or at least stop crying over which way I pick to play my warrior? Thanks. lol

blue.rellik · Sep 25, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04

The problem is the thread. A warrior shouldn't have energy problems, it's like a elementalist with adrenaline problems

Malchior · Sep 25, 2007, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

The problem is the thread. A warrior shouldn't have energy problems, it's like a elementalist with adrenaline problems

Hey buddy, Warriors have an energy bar, energy attacks, and wouldn't you know it, a +5 energy mod to weapons. see to me, call me crazy, I would guess that it means I have a choice. Pardon? I DO?

Oh well what a releif. I can sleep easy now!

Later

blue.rellik · Sep 25, 2007, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Hey pal, a ele/monk/necro/rit/mesmer has a wand/staff that has a attack! I know! They should just attack everything! Screw casting spells! I'll leave that to the warriors!

Nexus Icon · Sep 25, 2007, 06:21 AM // 06:21

The best way to manage energy on a warrior is to avoid using skills that consume too much energy.
Is that clear enough?

Racthoh · Sep 25, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Sins have terrible DPS, they're spikers.

Critical Agility/Moebius/Death Blossom sin has very impressive DPS. Slap on Great Dwarf Weapon and it's one crazy KDing machine.

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Originally Posted by Malchior

I'm not dealing the damage, only acting as a distraction so the nukers can deal damage.

You will find playing outside a tank and spank environment is a lot easier and just as fast as letting the 'nukers' blow stuff up while you play sponge.

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I don't make builds to be uber leet, I enjoy mixing and matching skills for fun. I just play to enjoy myself and I do, I also am still and always will be fiddling about with skills.

The problem is this is a forum, where readers are going to be looking for the best. You'll rarely find someone looking for something fun; your typical player wants everything optimized down to the skill bar, attributes, equipment, order to use skills, and anything else you can think of.

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My aim is to take damage and slow assassins, warirors and ect down if they start harrassing casters too much. I have an interupt and a running speed skill to assist. i'm not playing the role of mighty hero that can defeat vast whatevers, I'm doing my part so the nuker/monk/whathaveyou heros can do theirs. =P

You cripple one enemy out of many, you have one interrupt that might hit a key spell. And then you use Flourish to do it again. You also run quick. Sorry but that's not the kind of role that fills any party makeup I can think of. Your typical Dragon Slasher can output some of the highest DPS in the game, while powering Save Yourselves! making the party invincible with maybe half his skillbar. Which character do you think has a better chance of making it into a group?

blue.rellik · Sep 25, 2007, 06:27 AM // 06:27

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Critical Agility/Moebius/Death Blossom sin has very impressive DPS. Slap on Great Dwarf Weapon and it's one crazy KDing machine.

Never thought about that chain combo. Guess that proves me wrong

Malchior · Sep 25, 2007, 10:36 AM // 10:36

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Hey pal, a ele/monk/necro/rit/mesmer has a wand/staff that has a attack! I know! They should just attack everything! Screw casting spells! I'll leave that to the warriors!

Do you see spells anywhere in my build? I have attacks, skills, stances and whatever my elite is

Malchior · Sep 25, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Nexus Icon

The best way to manage energy on a warrior is to avoid using skills that consume too much energy.
Is that clear enough?

You're right of course, however flourish works just fine seeing as it can put my energy from 5 ish to max

Malchior · Sep 25, 2007, 10:49 AM // 10:49

This thread it titled "Energy problems" for those of you who seem to have forgotten.

Thank you for your opinions but, no thanks. I didn't post claiming my build was the best, or can do amazing DPS, or can do anything amazing.

I threw together some energy sword skills because I liked the elite "Flourish". I enjoy playing my warrior and he does just fine. He has just as much chance as getting into a group, and you can't even see my skills unless I tell you them anyway, which I have no problem doing.

Warriors can use energy attacks if they so wish, get over it those who have problems with any option in play style. I'd much rather have my build knocked about by everyone rather than be the best using some adrenaline build half the game is using, for the simple fact I can say "At least I made my build".

I never asked for opinions, I posted my build because it was related to the topic of energy management for a warrior, that's it.

So please, try getting back on topic or find a thread made for talking about DPS.

blue.rellik · Sep 25, 2007, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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Originally Posted by Malchior

Do you see spells anywhere in my build? I have attacks, skills, stances and whatever my elite is

Never did say you use spells

I'm sorry that we sound offensive to you, we just use warriors as they were meant to be played (AKA kill things). If you enjoy letting everything else kill things while you do your thing (whatever that is) then go ahead. Just please don't try and press your build onto others. The last thing I want people knowing is that warrior's can't kill things

Malchior · Sep 25, 2007, 10:54 AM // 10:54

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Never did say you use spells

I'm sorry that we sound offensive to you, we just use warriors as they were meant to be played (AKA kill things). If you enjoy letting everything else kill things while you do your thing (whatever that is) then go ahead. Just please don't try and press your build onto others. The last thing I want people knowing is that warrior's can't kill things

I used to have an all adrenaline build, but prefered energy, that's all.

If the thread was looking for energy management with DPS, I wouldn't have posted.

thor thunder · Sep 25, 2007, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Wow this tread is turning into a energy war pritty fast, Take it easy guys.

To Op: warriors do have ENERGY for a reason..

Your perfectly fine utilizing High energy cost or high spam rate energy skills, there is nothing wrong with that. What is important and what is most likely causeing your energy problum is energy manegment im not talking about OMG GET THOSE ENEGRY SKILLS OFF YOUR BAR!! thats not manegment that energy racism (haha) personly i run two energy skills alot! the key isnt always the skill its HOW and WHEN to use it and knowing what skills are worth the energy and what skills clearly Are Not.
For example
One skill i love to use is counter attack 5e 12sec recharge for +36dmg and it also give +5 energy to the user when the skill hits a attacking foe (witch is more often then not) not only does this skill give you a nice little slam and gives back the energy it cost But it also helps build your adren pool because being a energy skill helps to generate adren without waisting it.
another one is "Sheilds Up!" great skill +24 armor and 50% chance to block Great party skill, and with a 30sec cool down gives plenty of time for your energy to build up after it expires.
Hey dont forget that you have secondarys also there some great skills there just make shur that you use the skill wisely to avoid energy problums.
Also radiant insignias arnt the best idea for a warrior you can grab some but wound't recommend it.
Well i have said to much already hope it helps
Good Luck

Malchior · Sep 25, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by thor thunder

Wow this tread is turning into a energy war pritty fast, Take it easy guys.

To Op: warriors do have ENERGY for a reason..

Your perfectly fine utilizing High energy cost or high spam rate energy skills, there is nothing wrong with that. What is important and what is most likely causeing your energy problum is energy manegment im not talking about OMG GET THOSE ENEGRY SKILLS OFF YOUR BAR!! thats not manegment that energy racism (haha) personly i run two energy skills alot! the key isnt always the skill its HOW and WHEN to use it and knowing what skills are worth the energy and what skills clearly Are Not.
For example
One skill i love to use is counter attack 5e 12sec recharge for +36dmg and it also give +5 energy to the user when the skill hits a attacking foe (witch is more often then not) not only does this skill give you a nice little slam and gives back the energy it cost But it also helps build your adren pool because being a energy skill helps to generate adren without waisting it.
another one is "Sheilds Up!" great skill +24 armor and 50% chance to block Great party skill, and with a 30sec cool down gives plenty of time for your energy to build up after it expires.
Hey dont forget that you have secondarys also there some great skills there just make shur that you use the skill wisely to avoid energy problums.
Also radiant insignias arnt the best idea for a warrior you can grab some but wound't recommend it.
Well i have said to much already hope it helps
Good Luck

Yeah, counter attacks looks really good

A Leprechaun · Sep 25, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28

To the OP: Have you even stated your build yet, people are fine to argue over the rights and worngs of playing the warrior class, but without your build or setup we have no idea how to help, well I dont.
Having some energy skills on your bar is fine, but make sure you know your limitations. After playing for a bit with your bit you will know whether you have too much energy usage or that you can add a little more. Just play around with it.
Some energy skills are great, there are some good energy attacks, like, as thor said, counterattack, although it actually has a 6s reacharge not 12, even better! Also the new buffed power attack is great, although its easy to spam yourself out of energy.
Skills like Warriors endurance or, as already posted, flourish can be used to better manage your energy, although these usually fit into a certain type of build.
Hope this helped, I can help more if you will post the build(s) you are having problems with.

Cheers.
~A Leprechaun~

Div · Sep 25, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by Malchior

This thread it titled "Energy problems" for those of you who seem to have forgotten.

Thank you for your opinions but, no thanks. I didn't post claiming my build was the best, or can do amazing DPS, or can do anything amazing.

I threw together some energy sword skills because I liked the elite "Flourish". I enjoy playing my warrior and he does just fine. He has just as much chance as getting into a group, and you can't even see my skills unless I tell you them anyway, which I have no problem doing.

Warriors can use energy attacks if they so wish, get over it those who have problems with any option in play style. I'd much rather have my build knocked about by everyone rather than be the best using some adrenaline build half the game is using, for the simple fact I can say "At least I made my build".

I never asked for opinions, I posted my build because it was related to the topic of energy management for a warrior, that's it.

So please, try getting back on topic or find a thread made for talking about DPS.

My build has less energy problems than yours. The higher DPS is just a side effect of your build being bad. Now stop posting bad builds pl0x.

Pericles · Sep 25, 2007, 03:16 PM // 15:16

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Sins have terrible DPS, they're spikers.

This is absolutely not the case in PVE (and that's what we're talking about), sins deal much more DPS than warriors, (yes even dragon slashers), moebius-death blossom spam has no equals.

Also to anyone who goes 'oh, it's pve, anything works in pve' RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you

, you arrogant pvpers, just because PVE-players don't like spending hours to set up a team and play 5 hours a day doesn't mean we're 'less' than you

.
I'm really getting sick and tired of this attitude.

There, i said it.

A Leprechaun · Sep 25, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Lol, I only play PvE and I say that anything goes all the time. PvE is easy, In harder areas you sometimes cant run whatever you want, but whenever I PvE, I have no trouble.
I really had a good laugh at your post, sorry.
~A Leprechaun~